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04-29-2010, 03:31 PM
Anger mounted Thursday over an Arizona law cracking down on illegal immigration as a police officer filed one of the first lawsuits challenging the law and activists gathered outside an Arizona Diamondbacks game at Wrigley Field in Chicago, chanting "Boycott Arizona."

The lawsuit from 15-year Tucson police veteran Martin Escobar is one of two filed Thursday, less than a week after Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed the law that's sparked fears it will lead to racial profiling despite the governor's vow that officers will be properly trained.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said the federal government may challenge the law, which requires local and state law enforcement to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally, and makes it a state crime to be in the United States illegally.

Escobar, an overnight patrol officer in a heavily Latino area of Tucson, argues there's no way for officers to confirm people's immigration status without impeding investigations, and that the new law violates numerous constitutional rights.

Tucson police spokesman Sgt. Fabian Pacheco said Escobar is acting on his own, not on behalf of the department.

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders also filed a lawsuit Thursday, and is seeking an injunction preventing authorities from enforcing the law. The group argues federal law pre-empts state regulation of national borders, and that Arizona's law violates due process rights by letting police detain suspected illegal immigrants before they're convicted.

"Mexican-Americans are not going to take this lying down," singer Linda Ronstadt, a Tucson native, said at a state Capitol news conference on another lawsuit planned by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund and the National Immigration Law Center.

At least three Arizona cities _ Phoenix, Flagstaff and Tucson _ are considering legal action to block the law. In Flagstaff, police are investigating a threatening e-mail sent to members of the city council over their opposition to the law. The author said council members should be "arrested, tried in court, found guilty of treason and hanged from the nearest tree!"

About 40 immigrant rights activists gathered outside Wrigley Field in Chicago Thursday as the Cubs open a four-game series against the Arizona Diamondbacks. A small plane toting a banner criticizing the law circled the stadium, and activist George Lieu said they've sent a letter to Cubs management asking them to stop holding spring training in Arizona.

A Cubs spokesman declined to comment. Arizona manager A.J. Hinch says the team is there to play baseball.

On Wednesday, a group filed papers to launch a referendum drive that could put the law on hold until 2012, when voters could decide whether it is repealed.

The legislation's chief sponsor, Republican Rep. Russell Pearce, said he has no doubt voters will support the new law at the ballot box, which would then protect it from repeal by the Legislature. In Arizona, measures approved by voters can only be repealed at the ballot box.

Meanwhile, the effect of the law continued to ripple beyond Arizona.

A group of conservative state lawmakers in Oklahoma are considering pushing a bill similar to Arizona's. In Texas, Rep. Debbie Riddle, a Republican, said she will introduce a measure similar to the Arizona law in the January legislative session. And Republicans running for governor in Colorado and Minnesota expressed support for the crackdown. "I'd do something very similar" if elected," Former Rep. Scott McInnis, told KHOW-AM radio in Denver.

Denver Public Schools is banning work-related travel to Arizona. Even though school employees are in the country legally, DPS spokesman Kristy Armstrong said officials don't want them to be "subjected to that kind of scrutiny and search."

Retired South African archbishop Desmond Tutu also chimed in, saying he supports the idea of a boycott of Arizona businesses, according to a letter he wrote that was posted Wednesday on TheCommunity.com, a website for Nobel peace laureates that promotes peace and human rights.

"I recognize that Arizona has become a widening entry point for illegal immigration from the South ... but a solution that degrades innocent people, or that makes anyone with broken English a suspect, is not a solution," Tutu said.

Colombian singer Shakira planned to visit Phoenix on Thursday to meet with the city's police chief and mayor over her concerns that the law would lead to racial profiling.


04-29-2010, 03:43 PM
All I can say is the people that are complaining brought it on themselves. There are already laws that, if obeyed or enforced, would have prevented the big problem we have now.

04-29-2010, 05:47 PM
martin escobar sounds like he's jockeying for position to be concidered an elected official in the future. he'll run on the guise that he's for illegal latinos rights so their legal family members should vote for him.

Rollin Thunder
04-29-2010, 06:30 PM
70% of the people that voted (read could vote) voted in favor of this law. Things are out of control on the border......PERIOD!
Illegal is ...... well, illegal.
Main Entry: 1il·le·gal
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)i(l)-ˈlē-gəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Medieval Latin; Middle French illegal, from Medieval Latin illegalis, from Latin in- + legalis legal
Date: 1538
: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)

— il·le·gal·i·ty \ˌi-li-ˈga-lə-tē\ noun

— il·le·gal·ly \(ˌ)i(l)-ˈlē-gə-lē\ adverb

el 70% de las personas que votaron (lectura podía votar) votaron a favor de esta ley. Las cosas están fuera de control en la frontera...... punto!
Ilegal es...... bueno, ilegal.

04-29-2010, 06:50 PM
el 70% de las personas que votaron (lectura podía votar) votaron a favor de esta ley. Las cosas están fuera de control en la frontera...... punto!
Ilegal es...... bueno, ilegal.

rollin, i hear enough of that spanish crap on a daily basis, we don't need it here unless referring to the taco bell menu. :yuck:

04-29-2010, 07:35 PM
Driving west on I-10 through Texas yesterday all traffic was diverted into one of those check lanes maned by the Border Patrol folks. When it was my turn the friendly agent asked "is there anyone else in the vehicle" and "are you a U.S. citizen?" My response was No Sir to the former and Yes Sir to the latter. He responded by saying "having a nice day". My response was "Thank you, I will if you keep up the good work" as I nodded towards the half full bus of 'transportees' that was sitting next to the building. He just smiled and said "we are trying".

So I'm really curious why all these 'groups' and politicians aren't up in arms about this like they are with the new Arizona law. Perhaps Arizona should set up their own check lanes around the state and ask everyone if they are U.S. citizens and send the suspicious ones to secondary screening.

FWIW.... the Border Patrol has check points on both major and minor roads heading North from the border and also on roads that parallel the border in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

04-29-2010, 09:19 PM
They've been doing it for a lot of years. Over thirty years ago we were on a vacation trip & came across one of them. We were waved on because it was just me & my wife in a Toyota Tercel. We stopped to ask them what they were looking for & as told illegals. No different than a drivers license check or insurance check that they have once in a while. But no MEDIA making a big deal about it.

brian c
04-29-2010, 09:31 PM
plus wasn't the whole deal that while the cops were talking to an individual because they were stealing, speeding, raping, murdering, vandalizing, intimidating, shoplifing, loitering, printing, exposing, and these I stole from another site:

As a general rule serious offences e.g murder, manslaughter, causing death by dangerous driving, GBH, ABH, kidnapping, false imprisonment, rape, treason, torture, spying, rioting, perverting the course of justice, cheating the public revenue, possession/carrying of firearms with intent, placing explosives etc. are indictable only offences.

Lesser offences e.g theft, burglary, fraud, aggravated TWOC, offensive weapons, going equipped, criminal damage, arson (non aggravated), public nuisance, violent disorder, affray, dangerous driving and drugs offences are triable either way.

Minor offences e.g assault, battery, criminal trespass, bladed/sharply pointed articles, drunk and disorderly, poaching, speeding, driving whilst disqualified/without insurance, TWOC, criminal damage (under £5000), fear/provocation of violence, harassment, disorderly conduct, computer misuse are summary only.

then the officer could establish if you were in fact legal.