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HugeMetz
05-15-2011, 07:09 PM
Hello all, Im new to the forum. I have a Model 83 and it has been a great little pistol. However, recently the extractor decided to jump off of the gun. How can I have this repaired? It seems like no one in Columbia, SC does any gunsmithing on Bersa's. :crying:

Thanks

p-t-max
05-15-2011, 07:45 PM
I wonder if the parts for the Thunder 380 could work. You'd need the extractor, spring and pin. Then a pin punch and a hammer and you're back in business.

http://www.bersa.com/bersa-firearms/thunder-380/thun380mlt/extractor.html

Here's the extractor at Eagle Imports parts catalog.

Below is a Slideshow showing how to replace the extractor. It shows a 9UC, but the BT380 is basically the same set-up.

http://s884.photobucket.com/albums/ac47/p-t-max/Extractor/?albumview=slideshow

Americangirl01
05-16-2011, 01:27 PM
Hello, HugeMetz and welcome.

I'm not sure about the compatibility with current production? Anyone?

pollyb
05-16-2011, 02:54 PM
Welcome HughMetz,

Many parts can be substituted between models, I have not tried the extractor but
I would try the current production parts which you can find here

http://www.bersa.com/extractor-5.html
TP380A5 - Extractor $8.00

http://www.bersa.com/extractor-spring.html
TP22A6 - Extractor Spring $1.00

http://www.bersa.com/extractor-pin-1.html
TP22A1/2 - Extractor Pin $1.00

There is probably about $12.00 s&h so you may want to order these items while you are at it

http://www.bersa.com/recoil-spring-2.html
TP380A9 - Recoil Spring $8.00

http://www.bersa.com/feeder-platform-spring-3.html
TP380C4 - Feeder Platform Spring $1.00

Of course, you could contact a Warranty center found here
http://www.bersachat.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/74-Bersa-Firestorm-American-Classic-Repair-Centers.

Let us know what you do.

Good luck jab

HugeMetz
06-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Well... Due to some unforseen life events, the Bersa is still sitting idle. I've actually cleaned it twice (not that that was necessary, since it hasnt been shot since the extractor broke) and am now back on track to have it fixed. Found a gunsmith that will do the work for free if I get him the parts (As long as he gets to do the trigger job in my new S&W 642 when I finally retire my Model 36). So... hopefully the Bersa will be up and running soon. Also, thanks jab, for recommending those other items. I figure it might be a good opportunity to do a full tune up. I really like the Bersa 83 and I really need to get it up and running again. I almost feel guilty... probably why Ive cleaned it twice. Lol.

Michael T
06-20-2011, 08:57 PM
trigger job in my new S&W 642



Good luck on a trigger job worth a dam. The 642 is MIM parts.( Molded Injected metal ) They don't take well to reworking as their not real solid steel The 36 has real steel parts it can be worked on . I carry a 1955 3" pre model 36 when I carry a 38 spl revolver Or a Model 49 bodyguard . That's a 49 no -
Sorry S&W are no longer the pistols they were years ago. I suggest you just dry fire it about 500 times That be about good as you will get . He may cut springs and such. But the question is how long will it last before it miss fires or breaks . I have saw good S&W ruined by so called smiths and their trigger jobs. Most cut a couple coils on the spring It lightens the trigger a bunch. This is great till spring get a little mileage then light strikes. No what I want on a SD pistol.

When I find a good Old S&W I buy it then or layaway . I know it has a real 1 piece barrel real fitted trigger parts . Not a barrel with a shroud. I know the pistol was fitted by real craftsman . Not just stuffed with computer poped out molded parts fit by anyone they hire.
I have a 1915 S&W I shoot and have even been know to carry at times. Doubt if any of these new pistols will be around in 90+ years still working.

I would keep the 36 carry and sell the newer one. Just my 05 .

pollyb
06-20-2011, 09:08 PM
Also, thanks jab, for recommending those other items. I figure it might be a good opportunity to do a full tune up. I really like the Bersa 83 and I really need to get it up and running again. I almost feel guilty... probably why Ive cleaned it twice. Lol.

Your quite welcome, let us know how the parts work out.

regards jab

Pond Scum
06-20-2011, 10:36 PM
A strange thing happened to me at the range today ... well to my buddy. He was shooting my brand new BT380 Plus (about 200 rds total on the second range trip) and the extractor jumped off! Dang .... I hate it when that happens..... and the gun was such a good shooter! Not a single FTF or FTE or other problem until the extractor decided to self eject!

The Great Swammie predicts that Reyerson's is going to be getting a package from Michigan in the near future. Sigh.

-Pondy

HugeMetz
09-05-2011, 07:05 PM
Good luck on a trigger job worth a dam. The 642 is MIM parts.( Molded Injected metal ) They don't take well to reworking as their not real solid steel The 36 has real steel parts it can be worked on . I carry a 1955 3" pre model 36 when I carry a 38 spl revolver Or a Model 49 bodyguard . That's a 49 no -
Sorry S&W are no longer the pistols they were years ago. I suggest you just dry fire it about 500 times That be about good as you will get . He may cut springs and such. But the question is how long will it last before it miss fires or breaks . I have saw good S&W ruined by so called smiths and their trigger jobs. Most cut a couple coils on the spring It lightens the trigger a bunch. This is great till spring get a little mileage then light strikes. No what I want on a SD pistol.

When I find a good Old S&W I buy it then or layaway . I know it has a real 1 piece barrel real fitted trigger parts . Not a barrel with a shroud. I know the pistol was fitted by real craftsman . Not just stuffed with computer poped out molded parts fit by anyone they hire.
I have a 1915 S&W I shoot and have even been know to carry at times. Doubt if any of these new pistols will be around in 90+ years still working.

I would keep the 36 carry and sell the newer one. Just my 05 .

Hey all. I ended up keeping the 36. The 642 just didn't have the same soul. Its in rotation with the Model 83 now depending on weather. My friend bought the 642 off me and unfortunately I had to use that money to fix my truck. A S&W M&P9 is going on layaway soon but it wont replace the 36 and Model 83 entirely. The weather here is mostly shorts and tshirt so there a place for pocket jframes and small single stack guns 75% of the time. With those two stocked with Hornady CD I feel well enough protected as I don't get into too many bad parts of town.

pollyb
09-05-2011, 11:33 PM
Hey all. I ended up keeping the 36. Its in rotation with the Model 83 now depending on weather.

Good move :thumbs up:

Did the Model 83 extractor parts drop-in or have to be fitted? Did you do it or have it done?

regards jab

HugeMetz
02-17-2012, 06:56 AM
Wow! Sorry for the less than timely reply. Most of the parts dropped right in. The extractor had to be modified. Seems they made the claw beefier and while the part fit it did not allow a cartridge to seat properly. Had it ground down and now its back in action.

pollyb
02-17-2012, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the reply.....good to know information. :thumbs up:

:smile:regards jab

Pond Scum
02-17-2012, 08:50 AM
The Great Swammie predicts that Reyerson's is going to be getting a package from Michigan in the near future. Sigh.

-Pondy

Glad this came back to the top. I sent my BT380 Plus to Reynersons and Nick installed a new extractor and pin. Quick turn around and I haven't had a single problem since! Thanks Reynersons! :smile: