View Full Version : If you own a home... you'd better read this

Michael T
04-16-2010, 12:07 AM
If you own a home... you'd better read this

Don't want to be bothered with "Political stuff?" You'd better read this

one. It will come as a huge shock to you if you aren't informed as to what

Obama is up to, and it has already passed one hurdle. It will take very

little now to put it into actual law!! YOU'D BETTER WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!

*So you think you live in a free country.*

*Boy have you got a surprise coming.


A License Required for your HOUSE?

If you own your home you really need to check this out. At the end of this

email is the Google link to verify. If the country thinks the housing

market is depressed now, wait until everyone sees this. No one will be

buying homes in the future.

We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has

passed the House of Representatives and are being considered by the Senate.

We are ready to join the next march on Washington ! This Congress and their

"experts" are truly out to destroy the middle class of the U.S.A.

*A License will be required for your house*...no longer just for cars and

mobile homes....Thinking about selling your house? Take a look at H.R.

2454 (Cap and Trade bill). This is unbelievable! Home owners take

note and tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!

Beginning one year after enactment of the Cap and Trade Act, you won't be

able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and

water efficiency standards of this "Cap & Trade" bill, passed by the House

of Representatives. If it is also passed by the Senate, *it will be the

largest tax increase any of us has ever experienced*.

The Congressional Budget Office (supposedly non-partisan) estimates that in

just a few years the* average cost to every family of four will be $6,800

per year*. No one is excluded. However, once the lower classes feel the

pinch in their wallets, you can be sure that these voters will get a tax

refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to offset this new cost. Thus, you

Mr. And Mrs. Middle Class have to pay even more since additional tax dollars

will be needed to bail out everyone else..

But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read) has

many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this: A year from now

you won't be able to sell your house without some bureaucrat's OK. Yes, you

read that right.

The caveat (there always is a caveat) is that if you have enough money to

make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it. But, if

not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes ("mobile homes") are

included. In effect, this bill prevents you from selling your home without

the permission of the EPA administrator.

To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of your

home measured. Then the government will tell you what your new energy

efficiency requirement is and you will be required to make modifications to

your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act, to compl y with the new

energy and water efficiency requirements.

Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license (called

a "label" in the Act) that must be posted on your property to show what your

efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star efficiency rating label

on your refrigerator or air conditioner. If you don't get a high enough

rating, you can't sell.

And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every year,

even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into the Act. The

EPA administrator, appointed by the President, will run the Cap & Trade

program (AKA the "American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009") and is

authorized to make any future changes to the regulations and standards

he/she alone determines to be in the government's best interest.

Requirements are set low initially so the bill will pass Congress. Then the

Administrator can set new standards every year.

The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency for

private and commercial residences and buildings. However, the EPA

administrat or can set higher standards at any time. Sect. 202 - Building

Retrofit Program mandates a national retrofit program to increase the energy

efficiency of all existing homes across America.

Beginning one year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to sell

your home unless you retrofit it to comply with its energy and water

efficiency standards. You had better sell soon, because the standards will

be raised each year and will be really hard (expen$ive) to meet in a few

years. Oh, goody!

The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand

dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements IF you meet certain

energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set additional

requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants. You should expect

requirements such as "can't have an income of more than $50K per year",

"home selling price can't be more than $125K", or anything else to target

the upper middle class (that includes YOU?) and prevent you from qualifying

for the grants.

Michael T
04-16-2010, 12:10 AM
Most of us won't get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of the

retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more "change you

can believe in." Sect. 204 - Building Energy Performance Labeling Program

establishes a labeling program that for each individual residence will

identify the achieved energy efficiency performance for "at least 90 percent

of the residential market within 5 years after the date of the enactment of

this Act."

This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the U.S. must

be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M each year to

enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the Department of Energy will

get an additional $20M each year to help the EPA. Some of this money will,

of course, be spent on coming up with tougher standards each year...

Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be required to

post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and will not be

allowed to sell your home without having this label. And, just like your car

license, you will probably be required to get a new label every so often -

maybe every year.

*But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy efficiency

of your home should only cost about $200 each time.* Remember what they said

about the auto smog inspections when they first started: that in California?

It would only cost $15. That was when the program started. Now the cost is

about $50 for the inspection and certificate.

Expect the same from the home labeling program. Sect. 304 - Greater Energy

Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency guidelines

for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d) that one year after

enactment of this Act, all state and local jurisdictions must adopt the

National Building Code energy efficiency provisions or must obtain a

certification from the federal government that their state and/or local

codes have been brought into full compliance with the National Building Code

energy efficiency standards.

CHECK OUT a few of the sites;

*Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home* http://www.nachi (http://www.nachi/).

org/forum/ f14/cap-and- trade-license- required- your-home-


HR2454 American Clean Energy & Security Act: http://www.govtrack (http://www.govtrack/)

.us/congress/ bill.xpd? bill=h111-


Cap & Trade A license required for your home:


Cap and trade is a license to cheat and steal:

http://www.sfexamin (http://www.sfexamin/) er.com/opinion/ (http://er.com/opinion/) columns/oped_ contributors/

Cap-and-trade- is-a-license- to-cheat- and-steal- 45371937. html

Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home:


Thinking about selling you House? Look at HR 2454:


www.google.com/ (http://www.google.com/) search?hl= en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859- 1&q=A+License+

required+ for+your+ home-+Cap+ and+Trade&btnG=Google+


Reginald Carstairs
04-16-2010, 12:33 AM
I have been fighting this on from day one, kind of gives you gas every time I read it.

We still have these shanty's down here and some still don't have front doors or glass in the windows. Watch, they will be exempt because they are all on welfare.

One old river rat I buy fishing bait from has 2" slats on his floor. Every time I go there there to buy some Menhaden water moccasins sleeping in the house. We call him Papa and I asked "Papa, how come you don't step on one and get bit. He said he just brooms them through the slats on the way to the bathroom" Now I would like to see one of these Federal energy inspectors check out his place!

Rollin Thunder
04-16-2010, 04:56 AM
Cap & Trade isn't dead as most people think. nobama will not let this one die (sound familiar) it's simply another tax to re-distribute the wealth. It looks like it may come to a vote on the 26th. of this month.....as in 10 days from now!

04-16-2010, 01:45 PM
More reason to clean house in November. In the process, need to be sure that all bills presently being considered are scrapped & the new congress must start from scratch.

brian c
04-16-2010, 02:55 PM
cap and trade........how will they figure the cost on that volcano that is currently spewing it's guts skyward

04-16-2010, 03:57 PM
More reason to clean house in November. In the process, need to be sure that all bills presently being considered are scrapped & the new congress must start from scratch.

Yep, we don't need EPA permission to get rid of that one.....

04-17-2010, 09:19 PM
Guys, the govtrack link goes to last years cap and tax bill. I just downloaded the .pdf (http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/111/h/h2454pcs.pdf) and spent an hour searching it for the requirement of "licensing" or any other restriction on home sales. I could not find it.
Now, that doesn't mean it can't or won't happen in the next version of this garbage. Don't shoot the messenger, I just need to do the legwork and get the facts because I argue with an uber liberal lawyer in my family and he does his homework.

brian c
04-17-2010, 10:02 PM
taxes? talk is about more fed. tax on gas and the word is so we will cut our dependency on foreign oil (when you read that have your voice go up like you are asking a question poised to you by an idiot). Doesn't it just make you go wtf? This tax is for the carbon footprint and part of cap and trade.......we are in one f'd up country.....there has got to be someone out there with an answer....not just change you can believe in...someone with some common sense.... As for this crazy thing in this thread...I have a house that is nearly 100 years old.....I'd have to fill the top floor and attic with foam to qualify.....we, are screwed!

04-19-2010, 09:03 AM
My niece is a real estate agent and she says the association of realtors has known about this and has been fighting it for some time now.