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brojohn
04-18-2017, 07:26 PM
Senate voted 25:8 for right to carry w/o permit..... the bill now goes to the House.
I didn't even know this bill was even being considered?


http://wkrg.com/2017/04/18/alabama-senate-to-vote-on-getting-rid-of-concealed-carry-permits/

gtgeorge
04-18-2017, 08:06 PM
Seems to be spreading as I read SC is considering the same. A state that would not recognize untrained permit holders from other states and they now recognize GA and considering open carry without a permit.....

stidgun
04-18-2017, 08:15 PM
Mississippi is constitutional carry, open or concealed no permit required.
All done incremental. Guess baby steps first.

Gottmituns
04-18-2017, 10:17 PM
Will California, Hawaii and New York ever be part of the USA?

John_R
04-19-2017, 07:41 AM
Will California, Hawaii and New York ever be part of the USA?
I kinda hope not.

JONESN
04-19-2017, 08:45 AM
Will California, Hawaii and New York ever be part of the USA?

HaHaHaHa LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

Eliminator
04-19-2017, 11:41 AM
Texas is also looking at permitless carry and while I am in favor of the 2nd ammendment I believe a person needs to be better trained to carry or they are looking at a world of hurt,
Also it makes it more difficult for the police to know if the person is legally permitted to carry.

gtgeorge
04-19-2017, 12:13 PM
Texas is also looking at permitless carry and while I am in favor of the 2nd ammendment I believe a person needs to be better trained to carry or they are looking at a world of hurt,
Also it makes it more difficult for the police to know if the person is legally permitted to carry.
You are making contradicting statements there. Better training and police not knowing would be infringements. Part of the way of thinking that caused all the infringements along the way that we are fighting so hard to remove.

mitchr
04-19-2017, 01:51 PM
How many criminals get proper training? How many of them pay the $70 for a permit? Removing that $70 cost from law abiding citizens will not affect the answers to either question.

John_R
04-19-2017, 02:20 PM
How many criminals get proper training? How many of them pay the $70 for a permit? Removing that $70 cost from law abiding citizens will not affect the answers to either question.
EXACTLY!!!

Criminals won't obey gun laws. It's that simple. Removing the license requirement for us Floridians won't turn me into a mass murderer.

brojohn
04-19-2017, 03:02 PM
Getting a permit is Alabama is easy, and cheap- $20, and takes about 20 minutes. After first permit- you can then renew by mail. Like I said...its easy.

The new law- if it passes the House- will allow a person to legally conceal carry who normally would not pass a background check, and be allowed to get a permit.
I understand that criminals do not intend to obey the law anyway....but with the new law, anyone 18 years old can carry without a background check.
Possibly?....there may be something in the bill to prevent this, I don't know.

mitchr
04-19-2017, 03:53 PM
I figure they are relying on the law about being 21 to buy a handgun & dealer must do a background check before selling it. A face to face sale by an individual can circumvent those laws, but that can happen even now & requiring a permit won't stop it.

guns4me
04-19-2017, 06:21 PM
While we may want to know who is "legally allowed to carry" - based on laws passed in the 20th century, in reality, I see no such restriction in that pesky piece of paper called the Constitution. We may not like that "criminals" have guns, the 2A makes no distinction. I would question whether the commission of some crime is sufficient to strip an individual of their God-given right to be able to protect themselves and to become a part of the militia should the need arise. If they are not in prison but have served time, have they not fulfilled their debt to society? If they can't carry a gun, why are they not in prison. If you really do some mental gymnastics, "criminals" are in reality practicing the full definition of the 2A. The "gov't" doesn't have the right to restrict/infringe on one's right to be armed.

Yeah, we don't like it, but is this not "fair". I think one of the classes that EVERY student should be required to take in HS, should be basic gun safety class.

John_R
04-19-2017, 09:22 PM
The only thing that isn't fair is when a dirtbag kills an innocent person regardless of the murder weapon. Who cares if it's a gun, poison, a knife, or a bomb?

Gun laws aren't about crime, they're about bad people controlling good people.

VSPA
04-20-2017, 05:23 AM
How many criminals get proper training? How many of them pay the $70 for a permit? Removing that $70 cost from law abiding citizens will not affect the answers to either question.

Couldn't resist!

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