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gun sane
12-18-2015, 09:46 AM
Which is not to be confused with the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2014" or "....Ban of 2013" or etc.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/15/house-democrats-introduce-bill-ban-manufacture-assault-weapons/?utm_source=www.ccdl.us

John_R
12-18-2015, 10:51 AM
They should have named it the "Gun sales booster bill of 2016."

Maybe my MP15 will double in value.

R.Ph. 380
12-18-2015, 05:02 PM
Wish I had 4 or 5 AR 15's to sell....................................

ParaCav
12-25-2015, 07:37 PM
Here is the bill if you want to find out what is included. Note: It may take a while to download? Very long list of guns to be banned and those not to be banned.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

cavelamb
12-25-2015, 08:30 PM
Even semiautomatic .22s and lever action rifles are now "assault weapons"?

What drivel!

cavelamb
12-25-2015, 08:34 PM
Unbelievable!

House Resolution 4269

To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

(https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text)

Rev_Les
12-26-2015, 03:34 AM
The good news is at least after the trouncing they took in the last election, for NOW I don't think it'll pass. Hopefully conservatives will keep this in mind come November next year. But like GS has pretty much pointed out, they'll continue trying time and time again. Before prices get out of hand again, I need to order some AR parts.

John_R
12-26-2015, 07:50 AM
Doing the same thing over and over (introducing unconstitutional bills to ban guns) and expecting different results = insanity.

Pond Scum
12-26-2015, 08:25 AM
I don't think this bill is going anywhere. What scares me is that O'Bummer is threatening to announce some executive action on gun control in the State of the Union address. :crying: :mad:

John_R
12-26-2015, 08:30 AM
With the kind of people in Congress today and so many co-sponsors, we can't afford to blow this off. It's like being diagnosed with cancer and saying, "it'll go away," or being sued - you can't blow off a lawsuit, you must fight it. Our government has just initiated legal action against peaceful law abiding citizens. Bersa pistols with >10 round mags will be banned. Even Hi Point monkey guns would be banned.

nickndfl
12-26-2015, 08:42 AM
They are trying to redefine what is an assault weapon and rewrite the Constitution.

cavelamb
12-26-2015, 12:16 PM
Doing the same thing over and over (introducing unconstitutional bills to ban guns) and expecting different results = insanity.


also = agenda

And an agenda never goes away.

Eliminator
12-29-2015, 11:00 AM
I'm not to certain what a executive order is and I'm sure I don't like it. Back when I was growing up we studied the checks and balances built into the government between the congress, judicial and executive branches. no one said Pres could trump this with a "executive order". Sounds unconstitutional to me.

John_R
12-29-2015, 01:05 PM
EOs are supposed to let the president issue an order to a cabinet agency to do something already established by law. But in this post-constitutional era, it doesn't really matter. No one ever gets punished for violating the Constitution, so it's a free-for-all.

The other problem is that there are far too many cabinet agencies with far too much power. Did anyone ever dream that power over issuing passports could be trumped by the IRS?

Rev_Les
12-31-2015, 08:29 AM
EOs are supposed to let the president issue an order to a cabinet agency to do something already established by law. But in this post-constitutional era, it doesn't really matter. No one ever gets punished for violating the Constitution, so it's a free-for-all.

The other problem is that there are far too many cabinet agencies with far too much power. Did anyone ever dream that power over issuing passports could be trumped by the IRS?

It's definitely way out of hand. I don't remember the exact amount, but the number of EO's the last two administrations have written is phenominal. I don't think 9-11 was done by the govt., but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they knew about the plans for it. Sacrifice a few to establish control of the many.
Heck, it's hard to keep track of the exact number with as many as Obummer is churning out. It's about like keeping track of traffic accidents world wide, numbers are subject to change dramatically from day to day.:rolleyes:

Pond Scum
12-31-2015, 04:33 PM
It "feels" as though O'Bummer is writing a lot of executive orders and I believe the ones he writes have a negative impact on the country the facts show the actual number are not that bad ...... but I believe he is going to be more active in his last year in office.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/every-presidents-executive-actions-in-one-chart/

Rev_Les
12-31-2015, 05:14 PM
It "feels" as though O'Bummer is writing a lot of executive orders and I believe the ones he writes have a negative impact on the country the facts show the actual number are not that bad ...... but I believe he is going to be more active in his last year in office.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/every-presidents-executive-actions-in-one-chart/
Hmm. Enlightening. Thanks for posting. FDR was really proficient at it. I know some are needed but it seems like most are about seizing control from the populace.

Pond Scum
12-31-2015, 11:39 PM
FDR was a 4 term president. In office during the depression and a war time president..... I would have to review the orders he signed but just my gut says that if anyone had good reasons for Exec orders then FDR was it. ........

Rev_Les
01-01-2016, 12:17 AM
Valid point.

Pond Scum
01-01-2016, 09:02 PM
Valid point.

I think we get the feeling that O'Bummer is abusing his powers because he seems to write the executive orders not on an emergency basis but he uses it to bypass the legistrative process. "Congress won't pass the law I want but I have a phone and a pen so I'll do it myself." Totally abusing his authority and crapping on the concept of separation of powers of the 3 branches of government.

Edit: I just found this example:


President Obama said on Friday he’ll meet with Attorney General Loretta Lynch next week to discuss how to use White House powers to reduce gun violence, lamenting that Congress has “done nothing” and declaring he has “unfinished business.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/01/obama-to-meet-monday-with-ag-lynch-about-options-to-tighten-gun-laws.html?intcmp=hpbt2