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    Question on driving through multiple states

    Next week I'll be driving from South Carolina with stops in NY, CT, and MA. I have CWP's that cover me up to, but not including, PA. How should I store my handgun when driving through the gun friendly states, and what should I do with it when I reach PA? I'll be up north for about a week. I'm also driving a rental car, if that should make any difference. My main concern is that I want to be legal if involved in a traffic stop. Any help would be most appreciated. Please excuse me if this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything specific when searching the forums.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    I find the best resource for traveling is http://www.handgunlaw.us

    Read about every state you are going to be in. I think the biggest trouble will be Massachusetts or in NYC if you are there. Putting the gun in transport mode in a locked box in the trunk when you are in states where you don't have reciprocity. If you are stopped by the police you don't need to consent to a search and you don't need to talk.

    I'm not a lawyer, I don 't play one on TV and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express so be careful and make your own decisions.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    I'd rely on the link Pondy provided & do your own research. Don't depend on internet lawyers. I believe, there is a national transport law, regarding the unloaded pistol being in a locked case & stored in a compartment which isn't easily accessible & ammo in a separate place, but be sure for yourself. Personally, if I was traveling in the area, I'd go hundreds of miles out of my way to avoid NY & CT.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Pond scum's website is agreat resource.
    Most importantly, know and understand 926a thoroughly.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Thanks guys. This is all good information. I'll be doing lots of reading tonight! Guess my idea of just throwing the loaded Ruger into the glove box, for easy access, isn't a great idea.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Quote Originally Posted by Rampo View Post
    Thanks guys. This is all good information. I'll be doing lots of reading tonight! Guess my idea of just throwing the loaded Ruger into the glove box, for easy access, isn't a great idea.
    It is okay in the states that recognize your SC license....In my opinion in a holster on your person is better. in the other states you need it in transport mode.

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    If you are stopping overnight in NY then don't have the gun with you. By their interpretation when you stop for the night (even in a motel) you have reached a destination and are no longer covered by the federal travelers rule. At that destination you are not authorized to have a handgun in your possession and if discovered you will be arrested. Doesn't matter where you are going the next day. There was a case in the Albany area a couple years ago that brought this to light. I don't remember all the details I just remember reading about it.
    Yes it is a nit picking way to interpret the law but that's the way they work it. (Depending on the prosecutor's frame of mind) It's their way of thumbing their collective noses at the 2nd Amend and all the "freer states". I wouldn't overnight in any of NJ, Ct, Ma, Md, or NY with a handgun in my possession.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Quote Originally Posted by north tex View Post
    If you are stopping overnight in NY then don't have the gun with you. By their interpretation when you stop for the night (even in a motel) you have reached a destination and are no longer covered by the federal travelers rule. At that destination you are not authorized to have a handgun in your possession and if discovered you will be arrested. Doesn't matter where you are going the next day. There was a case in the Albany area a couple years ago that brought this to light. I don't remember all the details I just remember reading about it.
    Yes it is a nit picking way to interpret the law but that's the way they work it. (Depending on the prosecutor's frame of mind) It's their way of thumbing their collective noses at the 2nd Amend and all the "freer states". I wouldn't overnight in any of NJ, Ct, Ma, Md, or NY with a handgun in my possession.
    North tex, thanks for the info. Unfortunately, we can't get around making overnight stops in NY, CT, & MA. We're visiting family up there and they're all spread out. After reviewing a bunch of information, my plan for those states is to secure the firearm, unloaded in a locked case in the trunk. The ammo will be in two 6 round magazines stored separately in the glove box.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    I would suggest NOT to put the ammo in the glove box. I would unload the magazines and put it in the factory box in a different locked container from the gun in the trunk.

    Don't speed, don't drive goofy, don't get pulled over. If stopped just act normal, don't volunteer any information, don't consent to searches.

    The national transport act should help you and the 6 round mags are to you advantage.

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...transportation

    NEW YORK—Use extreme caution when traveling through New York with firearms. New York state’s general approach is to make the possession of handguns and so-called “assault weapons” and “large capacity ammunition feeding devices” illegal and then provide exceptions that the accused may raise as “affirmative defenses” to prosecution in some cases. NY Penal Code s. 265.20(12), (13) & (16).

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    OK. I wish you the best of luck. As mentioned above DON'T draw attention to yourself. The rental car should be a good cover so they can't just run the plates and get info on you as to your CPL/CHL/LTC status.
    When I visit my wife's family in northern Maine I enter NY at Binghamton and exit near Bennington, Vt. No stops. A few back roads but it's a good ride. Always breath a sigh of relief when I exit NY successfully. Having Texas plates in NY is like having a target on your back.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    My 2A license to give layman law advice is valid on Bersa Chat, too, so I'll just add that in some states it's required that you tell the LEO that there is a firearm in the car either immediately or in the course of questioning when you are stopped. I pray it doesn't come to that.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    After going through handgunlaw.us it appears that notification will be required only in SC and NC. So that means I'll inform the LEO before he asks. However in the other states along the way, I don't need to volunteer any firearm information, (unless asked). I don't anticipate getting stopped for any driving violation, but it pays to be prepared. Cheez! maybe I should just leave the firearm home!

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Preventive maintenance. Don't get stopped in the first place.
    Check all your brake lights, in the evening all your car lights. No broken cracked windshields. Don't speed even if the flow is going fast, no more than 8 mph over on the highway, in the city as posted. Windshield tint can't be tinted too dark.

    Script drugs in the pharmacy containers. Keep drivers license and CCW along with insurance handy. LEOs get nervous when a driver is going for the glove compartment. Window down and hands on top of the steering wheel. These are the basics all of us should follow. You may think I am an idiot for posting this but think like a LEO and remove as many red flags as possible.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    +1 to NorthTex's comments. NY, NJ & MA routinely ignore the federal rule on travel. If you stop overnight and they find out you have a firearm and do not meet their silly rules, you are toast. In NY, you need a license for simple possession, not just for CCW. So if you are staying overnight in NY, best leave the gun locked in the car and hope you do not get stopped.

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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Where in NY? Seems I've gotten the impression that upstate New Yorkers aren't as bad as NYC. Maybe just a detour around NYC?
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Best of luck, Rampo, on your trip. You've gotten some great advice here. Tell us how it went in NY when you get home.


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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

    Hey, I gotta idea! BigCityChief can get you a police escort, maybe! Or at least, let all the police departments know you're coming & that you're one of the good guys.
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    But I'm sure he knows the right people.
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    Re: Question on driving through multiple states

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